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Olbermann: Local GOP Chair is ‘Worst Person’

lennyBacked by ghoulish Halloween music, Keith Olberman ran through his nightly routine of declaring people the 'worst' people in the world. He actually highlights three individuals each night, usually one of them being Rush Limbaugh.

Tonight, the "worse" person in the world was John Boehner, the "worser" person in the world was Rush Limbaugh.

And the "worst" person in the world? None other than Duval County Republican Party Chairman Lenny Curry!

Olbermann explained to his audience that Curry, as well as other local Republican officeholders who attended the First Coast Tea Party on July 2nd, had endorsed the extreme signs being held up by a couple of individuals who attended the event.

The 3-4 signs featured depicted President Obama as a fasicst figure and compared him to Hitler.

They were picked up by the Huffington Post today and that is likely how they drew the attention of Mr. Oldbermann or one of his staff members.

Amusingly, in his segment on Boehner, Olbermann says to the Congressman: "you need to upgrade your knowledge brother." He then goes on to report a slew of incorrect information on who actually organized and paid for the Tea Party event, apparently having done absolutely no background research before awarding the label to Curry and other local Republicans.

Showing himself to be a defender of civility in American politics, Olbermann continued to use the term "teabaggers" (making reference to a lewd sexual act) to describe individuals who participated in the Tea Party rallies.

Mr. Olberman's staff uses the logo of the Jacksonville Landing to represent the First Coast Tea Party, probably the result of a quickie Google Image search by a low-level staffer.

Chairman Curry took Olbermann's attack in stride, saying in a statement: "For the record, I'll wear Olbermann's new label for me like a badge of honor. I only wish more than twelve people in the entire country actually watched his show and heard it!"

The following is the full clip from tonight's episode of Keith Olbermann's little watched and practically unwatchable program...

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  1. Oh good, the player would not load on the main site. Thanks for posting, Austin!

  2. Olberman was 100% correct in his segment. You're all a bunch of pathetic traitors to your country. Teabaggers is an ACCURATE term to describe the bunch of you.

    • Wow. this is the most insulting post I've ever seen. It's filled with such hate and vile. Disgusting, repugnant and lewd. God bless your freedom of speech. "pathetic traitors" "teabaggers" my own mom doesn't insult me this well. Are you a professional hypocrite or is this just a hobby?

    • Brooke, I am a veteran who served our Country in the US Air Force and I was in attendance at the Tea Party. I know I am not a traitor as you alleged in your post. Have you ever served your country, or do you just talk about those that are serving or have served?

    • Brooke,
      Such intellectual content. I suspect you enjoy teabagging: which would explain why you were sure to type the word.

  3. Wow! That funny looking guy didn't have the story right! I was there and I saw what happened. It' really dangerous that listen to the liberal media. Phew! They sure know who to screw up a the facts of a story...

    • Being Liberal or Conservative doesn't mean that you automatically know what is right or wrong. "Conservative media" can just as easily screw up the facts of the story. Sloppy journalism knowns no political boundaries.

  4. Olbermann has an audience? That is news.

  5. Congratulation to Chairman Curry and the local Party!!!!
    For the liberal national media to have Lenny Curry in their sites is the most flattering thing that he could happen. It’s one thing to have the bitter, jealous local hacks attacking him, but with this reaction it is clear that Northeast Florida is still the nationally recognized strong hold for the Republicans. Even with Obama spending the entire last day of the election her in Jacksonville, he still couldn’t win the County. We took everything they could throw at us and they still lost!
    Anyone that has taken 5 minutes to understand this issue knows that neither Chairman Curry nor the local Party had anything to do with this event. In fact, when brought to his attention he categorically condemned the action in question.
    Keep up the great work Chairman and hats off to your hard working volunteers. You’ve clearly got the Dems running scared.

  6. Silence Dogwood: Thank you for those words. The local GOP is working and working in a positive and forward moving manner. Northeast FL is most absolutely a Republican stronghold. Duval County was the largest county in the ENTIRE southeast to go to McCain. Under Chairman Curry's leadership, we have already begun to knock on doors, attend community events, and get our voice heard while respecting the right of others to voice their opinion. It amazes me that we continue to get blamed by the actions of others; however, that's ok. I'll take my time and produce positive and worthy actions for my community and my party rather than waste my time on a petty argument over a poster.

  7. Why are you implying Curry and the local GOP little if anything to do with this event?

    1) the Duval County Republican Party promoted the event with e-mails that stated “Paid by Republican Party of Duval County.” ("Heavily promoted" according to some local media)

    2) Chairman Lenny Curry broadcast live from the event on AM 1320.

    3) GOP State Representatives Lake Ray, Charles McBurney and Mike Weinstein and GOP State Senator Stephen Wise attended.

    4) Local party officials were on stage during the event.

    5) Maybe most difficult of all to dismiss out of hand, the Duval County Republican Party featured pictures from the event, including the Obama/Hitler comparisons, on its Facebook page. Can't imagine how that could happen accidentally.

    Curry and the local GOP promoted the event, broadcast a local GOP radio show from the event, appeared on stage at the event, posted pictures of the event on their Facebook page including some featuring the pathetic clowns with the Hitler/SS signs, but still Olbermann was out of line to suggest the local GOP had any meaningful connection to the event? I'm not sure I follow your logic.

    • Steve, who organized the event?

      • I am glad we can agree, I like the volunteer in question, he is dedicated and has alot of media savy, He will be a great asset for many years to this city.

    • Steve Davis,
      Hey I just realized something; I bet Chairman Curry owns an umbrella so he must have been the guy involved in President Kennedy's assassination. How have we missed that for so long. Your brilliant intuitive sense of reasoning can be applied to so many similar mysteries.
      Or, while not as creative we can look at the facts.
      1. The local Party sends out many notices on behalf of REC member requests. Countless candidate and group activities receive similar treatment. In addition, you reference a legal disclosure statement that by law has to be on all emails, printed materials, websites, etc. If Chairman Curry were to invite you to lunch using a Republican Party email account it would have to have the same disclosure. That doesn’t mean that he’s paying for your sandwich. Sorry bad example
      2. Lenny Curry and Cindy graves host a weekly radio show that addresses all relevant political issues. This event happened to coincide with his show. Therefore, should he report on news worthy event or boycott it like so many liberals would hope? The question shouldn’t be why did he do the radio show from there, but why don’t other groups hold large rally’s and invite him to attend those as well. Oh yeah, it’s because the Democrats can’t fill a booth in a coffee shop right now.
      3. Yes, these individuals and over 1,000 other people were there expressing their right of free speech. Are you denying them their right, or suggesting that they had something to do with the 3 inappropriate signs that were mixed in with the other hundreds of homemade signs. Unless they made one of these signs, or conspired to have someone make them or hold them than I don’t see your point.
      4. Not a single person attended this event in their capacity as a “local Party Official”. Nobody was named, introduced or tied to the local Party at anytime from the stage.
      5. This assertion shows your complete lack of understanding or intentional posturing to use this for political gain. The site you mention is an open site that is not number GOP control. The local Party cannot edit or remove posts. Pretty impressive if you ask me. In addition, the person that posted these photos did so while posting over 200 other photos that showed a group of enthusiastic and engaged citizens.

      However, I absolutely agree that whoever made those signs are pathetic clowns and that Olbermann was out of line.

      • Silence,
        While I agree with you wholeheartedly that, while the party did promote the event, it was not a sponsored Republican event by any stretch of the imagination.

        However, I still do not understand why there was a need to a)take photos of the bufoons with the hitler signs (particularly since the press release stated that he did not want to "draw attention" to the signs)
        b)post those photos on a facebook page used to promote the local party.

        The administrator of a facebook group can remove any post from the page.

      • Jose,
        Let me take a step back and give you the benefit of the doubt. Seriously, I will try.
        If I understand your two points then your contention is that the Party should have monitored what pictures individuals, acting on their own should or should not have been taking at an event that they were not involved in staging? Why is there even a thought that the local Party "knew" that photos were being taken or that these signs were even there.
        In addition, it has been stated by the local Party that they are not the administrator's of that site and therefore could not remove the 2 or 3 photos (out of the more than 200 posted) that you referred to. I understand that they made a request to the person that did post them, and that person pulled them off. I will take them at their word on this as I have not seen any dishonest or manipulative statement made by them that would make me think otherwise.

      • The admins of the site are as follows:
        Donna L Barrow
        Kevin Cleary
        Peret Pass (FSU)
        Stephen Butters
        Cindy Graves
        Lenny Curry
        Stephen Heckel (creator)

        Note, the chairman, state committeewoman, the person who actually posted most of the pics and the internet director.

        That site is our outreach to a large segment of the community. I recall that the same resoning you just used was used by Barack Obama when anti-semitic trash ended up on one of the "user blogs" on his campaign site.

        This is a much smaller pool to police, in short, yes, I expect a page that is designed to be part of an outreach to the young, tech savvy group that Obama tapped into this last cycle should be policed and monitors. Hopefully the admins will take that as a lesson learned.

      • Jose,
        So someone went through hundreds and hundreds of photos which were legally and appropriately taken. Within these hundreds and hundreds of photos there were 3 that were inappropriate. We clearly disagree on who was "able" to take them down. However, the outcome was that they were taken down within a very reasonable period of time....within hours of the Party being made aware of their existence.
        Help me with the lesson that should be learned. A couple of hours should be reduced to minutes? That's really what this is all about, this outrage is all because the local Party acted appropriately and reasonably but it took an extra couple of hours? That is why Chairman Curry was named the "Worst Person in the World". That’s just silly.
        However, ironically the local Party couldn't have hoped for a better gift from their comical opponents. The local Republican's are already out of their seats rallying around this one. If you can help and encourage some of these amateur strategists to try to come after the GOP again, please encourage them to do so.

      • One lesson that should be learned is that the person who posted the pictures (who is a volunteer Social Media Coordinator for the DCREC) should exercise a little more discretion in posting the pics. Yes, if that means that they need to sort through the photos before they are posted, so be it. I dont know if he took the pics himself. If he did take those pics, he knew what was in them and should have known better than to post them.

        Perhaps there should be a level of consideration before pics are posted. I would think it would be common sense to vet something that is going to go on a page that represents us to the wider world. As I said before, all it does put us into the corner that the left wants to paint us into.

        By the way, I liked the positive pics just as much as you did. Except the diaper guy, he kind of grossed me out.

      • Also, just to clear the air, I am in no way justifying the "Worst Person" title, I think it was disgusting that he did that to the Chairman.

      • Jose,
        I would agree that there could have been a higher degree of sensitivity from this well intentioned, junior volunteer. That point I concede….as well as the “diaper guy” being an upsetting thought.

    • There is no logic when dealing with politics Steve. Just because someone helped pay for, promote, attended and broadcast live from an event doesn't mean they endorsed it.

      I'm still kind of surprised with the congratulations being given for being in the sites of the liberal media on all this. Don't these kind of rallies and signs usually come from people wearing white hoods and sheets who don't want to be readily identified?

      • Keep saying that it was "paid for" and maybe someone will believe it. If you click your heels twice you might teleport home as well.
        Also, you have a good point, because 2 out of 1,000 people who show up might be racists, the Tea Party folks should never meet again. That's a great point. Maybe we should do background checks and litmus tests for all individuals that attend any public event, so that we can make sure everyone agrees with us. Let's start that soon, maybe at the next Duval County Democratic Executive Committee meeting.

    • Where is your repudiation of the Democrats Bush=Hitler speach?
      If there isn't any; you're just complaining to complain.

  8. It certainly is exciting that our local party is grabbing the attention of national liberal media. Leave it to the biased media to latch on to a couple of silly posters and miss the entire point.

    To date in the "off-election year" of 2009, the local GOP has: registered new voters, knocked on doors, developed a new messaing campaign, created a new Republican media outlet on ABC 1320 WBOB, engaged the NAACP in the correct history of our Party regarding MLK, encouraged the free expression of tax payers regarding the obscene amount of debt the Democrats are obligating our children and grandchildren to, called attention to the fact that American businesses are being taken over by the govenrment and created two new clubs/organizations to campaign with us as well as attracted thousands of new supporters.

    Duval County Republicans are engaged and growing our party as never before - at least since Reagan was in office. Our message of smaller government, lower taxes and a strong military is finding new converts every day. Two or three homemade posters aside, we will continue our struggle to take back the Congress of the US and elect a Republican US Senator. Our phones are ringing off the wall with citizens eager to join us!

    I applaud the efforts of my friend, Chairman Curry and the rest of my fellow Republican leaders for their insight and leadership. I am thrilled that members of our Duval delegation came to the Landing. I also am thankful to the organizers of the Tea Party for allowing Duval County voters a venue to express their opinions and very grave concerns.

    Even negative press gives attention to our cause! It is a biproduct of political success and we can expect more of it as we grow.

  9. Because there were Republicans at the event doesn't mean it was sponsored by the Republican Party. I would remind you that there was a good representation of all the Jacksonville demographics participating and enjoying the Tea Party.
    If your premise of the antitheises is correct, that would mean every Democrat delegate that went to the Presidential Convention when Bill Clinton was nominated, and re-nominated (thats 2 conventions) are sexual predators by association. If your premise is true, then every teacher in the Teachers Union is a statutory rapest. If your premise is true, then every Democrat who applauded Barney Frank when he returned to the Senate is guilty of running a gay-brothel from their basement. If your premise is true, then every Democrat in the Congress is responsible for the Cap and Trade bill that their constituency is against, and the case can be made that they should be held responsible for that bill.

    Having said that. If the Jacksonville Republican Party is guilty for supporting the Tea Party, then every Democrat reading this is a sexual molester guilty of statutory rape and runs a brothel out of their basement.

    If that be the case, why would I care what they think?

  10. Because there were Republicans at the event doesn't mean it was sponsored by the Republican Party. I would remind you that there was a good representation of all the Jacksonville demographics participating and enjoying the Tea Party.
    If your premise of the antitheises is correct, that would mean every Democrat delegate that went to the Presidential Convention when Bill Clinton was nominated, and re-nominated (thats 2 conventions) are sexual predators by association. If your premise is true, then every teacher in the Teachers Union is a statutory rapest. If your premise is true, then every Democrat who applauded Barney Frank when he returned to the Senate is guilty of running a gay-brothel from their basement, (talk about your teabagging!) . If your premise is true, then every Democrat in the Congress is responsible for the Cap and Trade bill that their constituency is against, and the case can be made that they should be held responsible for that bill.

    Having said that, if the Jacksonville Republican Party is guilty of anti-semitism because they supported the Tea Party; then every Democrat reading this is a sexual molester guilty of statutory rape and runs a gay-brothel out of their basement.

    If that be the case, why would I care what they think?

  11. I wonder why no Democrats are addressing the issue of Republican finding the average American thinks the Democrats have the nation heading in the wrong direction. Oh, because, by their resoning, they are all felons with serious sexual proclivities.

    -This is why Melendez barred me from her web log; she can't handle the truth. She is indeed, a weak minded indiviual.

    • She barred you because you could not act like an adult and debate. As I said before, there are alot of republicans on there, the editor of this site included. Some of them are as passionate as you, but they do not come in there and try to make broad based insults and assumptions right out of the gate in their first post. IMO, you were not there to do that, you were there to be a troll, to flame the board as much as possible and repeatedly break the rules so that you would receive a (temporary) ban. Then you could come back here to the Observer and brag about what a big smart man you are. All you did was log on, throw a few straw men out there and pretended like you beat someone in a debate.

      As for the Democrats addressing the fact that the country thinks we are headed in the wrong direction. While I am glad the independents are starting to see the light and we may be finally breaking into the favorables on some issues in the polls, it is a long way until 2010, we lost the American People's trust, it is going to take more than the Dems screwing things up royally for us to get that trust back.

      • Wow Jose did you have your head in the sand during the Bush years?

      • No I did not, in fact I was quite angry about the lousy drunken sailor spending that the Republicans and President Bush got up to. Which would be why I said that we lost the American peoples trust, because we failed to act like republicans and instead acted like a bunch of big government pork hounds.

      • "She barred you because you could not act like an adult and debate"

        To the contrary, my points were reasonable, more polite than anything she's written and concise. She barred me because she got her behind whipped in a debate. A debate that couldn't contend with. You bigotted view of the debate clouds your ability to acknowledge that fact. I find your defence of her facist-like response to be illuminating. Seems anyone can say anything: until it disagrees with her. Very illuminating.

        "Some of them are as passionate as you, but they do not come in there and try to make broad based insults and assumptions right out of the gate in their first post."

        Again thats a mischaraterization of the facts. I came in with very concise points. Points she couldn't refute. When she wanted me to "be nice" I illustrated to her that I was being as nice as she was: and I had my facts straight. She had vociferous ennuendo and much arrogance. I didn't see her pulling any punches, so why would I be compelled to soften my verbiage? No, the reality is I answered her (supposed) concerns, refuted them, then posed a seires of questions she wasn't intelligent enough to answer. She was irritated by that, exercised her option to play god: and barred me. It's OK with me, there is no void iin my life without a liberal forum.

        " you were not there to do that, you were there to be a troll, to flame the board"

        So now you're a mind-reader? I was there to agressively debate a seires of uniformed, vociferous diatribe. It was easy to refute because, quite frankly; it was all wrong. It was a political stunt to divert attention from the fact that Jacksonville citizens came together to protest the rising and implimentation of taxes during one of the worst recessions this country has seen.

        "Then you could come back here to the Observer and brag about what a big smart man you are"

        Again, you're the mind-reader. My intention was to debate Ms. Melendez with the same degree of agressiveness she uses. When I explained that to her, and informed her that the inability to "take what she gives out" is an indication of a weak mind. She proved me right.

        "throw a few straw men out there and pretended like you beat someone in a debate."

        Only in a liberal forum are facts deemed to be "straw men". As for bragging rights over a debate, there are none: she wasn't smart enough to carry on the debate. She was too weak-minded for the task. So in reality, I proved what I intended: I proved 1. she's all bravado and no substance. 2. She's too weak-minded to carry on a debate with someone who doesn't give her a helping hand by being more polite than she is. THOSE were the victories I carried away. But she couldn't debate me, thus no debate winner.

        "As for the Democrats addressing the fact that the country thinks we are headed in the wrong direction"

        You printed the proposition and gave no answer. I find that consistent with the other liberals who debate with emotion rather than facts.

        "we lost the American People’s trust"

        Yes you did, and they are so very happy to see Republicans when we knock on their doors and encourage them. I've yet to walk from a visit without the voter thanking me for stopping by. 2010 is going to be a very good year for the Republican Party: which is really what Melendez's diatribe is all about.

        Hope this helps you understand the facts, minus the emotion, of course.

      • Jose,
        Are you one f these felons with serious sexual proclivities?

        By there reasoning, that's what they make themselves to be.

      • OK, I am going to be very clear here because you clearly not understanding me.

        In the last paragraph of my post:

        1) I was agreeing with you for the most part
        2) I restated the propotion and agreed with it in the next post, I cant imagine how I could have been more clear.
        3) When I say "we" I mean republicans, myself and (I assume) you.
        4) Getting a bunch of happy faces in Duval County is not a huge achievement. A Republican pretty much has be caught on camera stealing to not be elected on most of the First Coast. It is like Obama getting interviewed on MSNBC: softball.

        I will leave you with this, your analogy about sexual predators in the Democratic Party is a perfect example of a Straw Man Fallacy. Ms. Melendez is not saying that all Republicans are racist beecause of those fools with the posters. She did assert that the it was irresponsible of the leadership to post the pictures and/or not confront them about their signs. You did not argue on that basis, you presented a false comparison mentioned before. Which I suspect you knew would not apply, yet you did it anyway.

        As for your remaining assertions of your "dominance" over Ms. Melendez, I have decided withdraw, not because you are correct, but because your perception of events clearly frames you as the poor aggreived victim of a meanie liberal who was so scared of your powerful logic and reasoning. Who am I to try to take you out of that. So I will drop the topic.

        By the way, I am not a mind-reader nor did I assert that I was, this is why I said IMO (which means In My Opinion).

        Have a blessed night, Mr. Davis.

      • "OK, I am going to be very clear here because you clearly not understanding me."

        I'm willing to understand you.

        "1) I was agreeing with you for the most part"

        Glad to hear that. Shows an ability to use reason.

        "3) When I say “we” I mean republicans, myself and (I assume) you."

        When I say Republican I mean me. I gathered you were at best an Independent. Glad we cleared that up.

        "4) Getting a bunch of happy faces in Duval County is not a huge achievement. A Republican pretty much has be caught on camera stealing to not be elected on most of the First Coast"

        If Obama, et.al continues to waste away the economy, that number is going to get much bigger. Much to the chagrin of Ms. Melendez.

        "I will leave you with this, your analogy about sexual predators in the Democratic Party is a perfect example of a Straw Man Fallacy. Ms. Melendez is not saying that all Republicans are racist beecause of those fools with the posters. She did assert that the it was irresponsible of the leadership to post the pictures and/or not confront them about their signs. You did not argue on that basis, you presented a false comparison mentioned before. Which I suspect you knew would not apply, yet you did it anyway.

        No, she originally tried to make it stick to the Jacksonville Republican Party. She was very emphatic about that, then later deminished the verbiage to "they should not have printed the pictures".

        Having said that, the anologies were consistent with her original insinuation, and using that very same application, she herself became labelled as very unsavory person - by association. The analogy was proper, the logic was reasonable, and the result was unpleasant for those who created the paradigm.

        The reality is the posters may have some validity to the premise. Did not Obama say that the Constitution was preventing him from the things he wanted to do?
        Did Obama force government influence on banks and businesses?
        Are the Democrats using shnanigans to get bills passed without inspection and proper debate?
        Are Democrats forcing regulations on the citizens that experts agree will deminish their lives and create dependance on goverment subsidies?
        Are these not the same initiatives the Nazis used in the late 1930's?
        Doesn't the fact that the liberals are offended to the point of TPDS indicate they are weak-minded? You never saw wide-spread apoplexy in Republicans for 12 years of Bush=Hitler. Doesn't that prove the weakness of those liberals?

        The answer to all of these qustions is "Yes"

        When one examines these perspectives, she was not only wrong about who was responsible, she was wrong to assume the posters had no credence.
        A very good evening to you, Mr. Jose.

      • Jose,
        Defending Ms. Menendez?
        I have enjoyed our exchanges over the last couple of days, and was glad we found common ground. However, please don’t lower yourself to defending Ms. Menendez and her “National Enquirer” style of posts and banter. She is clearly depressed and disappointed with her own lot in life, and therefore feels the need to tell absurd stories and lies in her posts. I can only imagine that she will more frequently begin to prematurely close her threads and possibly editing comments as people continue to be fed up with her mean-spirited nature, and challenge her on the facts of her claims. she deserves your sympathy not support.

      • "There was also a succinct argument to compare Bush to Hitler during those years"

        This was a cowards way to say "you're right but I don't want to admit you're right".

  12. "Jose,
    Are you one f these felons with serious sexual proclivities?
    By there reasoning, that’s what they make themselves to be."

    I have no clue what you are referring to here. By a "serious sexual proclivity" I can only assume you mean a tendency towards sex. I will say that that would be none of your business, but I am a happily married man, take from that what you will. :)

    Just kidding of course, I assume you are referring to your Clinton argument, but I am not sure what you are responding to.

    • I find it interesting that you couldn't refute the parallels between the current adminitration and the Nazi regime in the 1930's. The points are secint, and reasonable; which means the two posters at the Tea Party were not the seamier conclusions your friend made them out to be. The fact is, she was probably too wek-minded to think the issue through, so she reacted with her normal unreasonable emotion. I find this to be a hallmark of unitelligent liberals.

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      • There was also a succinct argument to compare Bush to Hitler during those years.

        National Security crisis, agressive legislation to increase internal surveilance, military actions against enemies in preemptive military action.

        None of these arguments were valid in reality (the 2008 election did occur after all) and none of them justified the comparison.

        Hitler was a digusting, racist, mass-murdering psychopath.
        Neither Bush nor Obama are any of those things, IMO.

      • "There was also a succinct argument to compare Bush to Hitler during those years."

        So you agree that the actions Obama have taken do, in fact bare resemblance to the actions taken by the Nazis in the 1930's. Do I understand that we agree?

        If so, then why the intolerant diatribe from you about the posters, their precense at the Tea Party, and the diatribe about the Republicans not insisting this persons well thought out proposition be silenced?

        You're convincing me that you aren't Republican, but libertarian. That's the problem.

      • The point I think you are missing is the comparison to Hitler the Man. Or the Nazi's as a party carry alot more historical weight than just nationlizing industries, etc.

        Hitler and the Nazi Party were mass murderers, beginners of unprovoked wars, street thugs, and all around despicable people in history.

        While cursory comparisons existed with both Bush and Obama, the posters comparing them to the Nazis are meant to do one thing, inflame passion and get people pissed off. That is not the action of people stating a well thought out proposition, that is the action of a buch of jerks trying to start a fight.

        I honestly dont have a problem with stating Obama may be a socialist, I think he might be in the softcore Euro-style. He is not a Nazi any more than Bush was.

        BTW, If I were truly a libertarian, I would not have had a problem with any of these jerks, so I am not following the reasoning here.

    • "The point I think you are missing is the comparison to Hitler the Man. Or the Nazi’s as a party carry alot more historical weight than just nationlizing industries, etc."

      You're dodging the question. Because you're reticent to give a straight answer, I'll ask you again John:
      Did not Obama say that the Constitution was preventing him from the things he wanted to do?
      Did Obama force government influence on banks and businesses?
      Are the Democrats using shnanigans to get bills passed without inspection and proper debate?
      Are Democrats forcing regulations on the citizens that experts agree will deminish their lives and create dependance on goverment subsidies?
      Are these not the same initiatives the Nazis used in the late 1930’s?
      Doesn’t the fact that the liberals are offended to the point of TPDS indicate they are weak-minded? You never saw wide-spread apoplexy in Republicans for 12 years of Bush=Hitler. Doesn’t that prove the weakness of those liberals?

      Are you going to continue to dodge these questions, or are you going to illustrate the honesty to answer "Yes, these parallels do exist? You always do this. Where is your honesty, your character? Just answer the question.

      "the posters comparing them to the Nazis are meant to do one thing, inflame passion and get people pissed off."

      That's what protest are for. To state the truth in a way to get reaction. Reaction from fellow protesters, and from those being protested. I'd say the 2 gentlmen wre quite successful in doing both. The reality is the comparrison was close enough that it caused your friend to lose her sanity. Why? Because there is more truth to the comparrison than there is falacy. The fact that it worked illustrates their intelligence and your weak-mindedness. Congratulations; you've been had.

      "Hitler and the Nazi Party were mass murderers, beginners of unprovoked wars, street thugs, and all around despicable people in history."
      So who was the street thug in the last administration? Who was the all-around despicable people, (surely there were people you disagreed with, but that didn't make them "all-around despicable" did it)? Who was the mass murderer? Surely not Bush, the Iraqis love him more than 1/2 the US. So who was the mass murderer there- since you said the administration was facist? The answer: "No one". You just have a hard time accepting factual, reasonable propositions- but you're willing to defend a lying nut. I'm telling you man. You gotta stop drinking their kool-aid.

      " honestly dont have a problem with stating Obama may be a socialist, I think he might be in the softcore Euro-style. He is not a Nazi any more than Bush was."

      You're such a compromiser. You must really crave liberal acceptance to cough up such diatribe. Do us a favor, stop pretending to be Republican: we really don't want you. We want real men. The fact is, the posters were more right than they were wrong. Even after you admit they have credence, you still meallly-mouth. You just aren't honest. -git that dribble before it stains the carpet, would you? And wipe your chin!

      You still didn't answer these other questions. Now that you admit there is credence to the accusation (with the caviat that "Bush did too" I gotta tell you, that sounds so juvenile. "I did it mom, but Willy did too!") then anser these:

      If so, then why the intolerant diatribe from you about the posters, their precense at the Tea Party, and the diatribe about the Republicans not insisting this persons well thought out proposition be silenced?

      "That is not the action of people stating a well thought out proposition, that is the action of a buch of jerks trying to start a fight."

      It was a protest. A stand against an official and/or policy. That IS a fight. I know you have a history of cowardace so you would understand the premise of fighting what you believe in, but this great nation was built upon that principle. It's what made us different than the Europeans we originated from. The land, the struggles had made Americans proud, self-sufficient, they're autonomy taught them to fight for what was worth having. Are you so weak=minded that you don't understand protest is a fight without the violence?

      "Hitler was a digusting, racist, mass-murdering psychopath.
      Neither Bush nor Obama are any of those things, IMO"

      Then you're not only weak-minded you don't have the capacity to understand the poster was speaking of facist-styled policies. Of course that doesn't surprise me. You really don't have a reputation for being much of anything, especially perceptive.

      To the readers with a modicum of perception: there was a knee-jerk reaction to condemn the comparrisons because the Facists wre such a harsh regime, but upon inspection, (and perception) the men and the posters were accurate about similar policies. John just isn't honest enough, and he to stubborn to admit thats he's been defending a lie.
      The parallels are accurate: sensitivities be damned.

      • Fisrt,
        Who is John?

        Second,
        I agreed that the paralells exist.

        Third,
        I am not being a "compromiser" I look at Obama and I see a eurosocialist, not a mass murderer bent on racial purity.

        Fourth,
        Your continued personal attacks on my manhood, my perception, and calling me a coward is the hallmark of a person with a weak argument, ad hominem is the last refuge of one with nothing left to stand on.

        I love this nation more than I can say. And I want to make sure it is safe for my children, that is why I will continue to work at the local level to restore balance in congress and eventually take back the White House, a goal I know you share.
        In the meantime, I will still try to keep a civil tounge in my head for as long as the Lord gives me the strength to.

        Have a good night.

      • "Fisrt,
        Who is John?"

        This was a mistake on my part. I do apologise- two simutaneous conversations.

        "Second,
        I agreed that the paralells exist."
        Progress!

        "Third,
        I am not being a “compromiser” I look at Obama and I see a eurosocialist, not a mass murderer bent on racial purity."

        The protest was over taxes and fiscal "reforms" which made the posters accurate. Since the poster and the message was accurate within these connotations: all of this pandamonium had one goal: to detract from the fact that the First Coast Tea Party was successful in bring a wide spectrum representation of Jacksonvilles demographics (simple language: there were a lot of people there who weren't Republicans- which makes you Ms Melendez nothing more than a hack).
        SInce the goal of any protest is to garner attention to a cause, the Tea Party was a huge success- including the ability to trigger TPDS in Obamites nation-wide. SInce the goal of any protest is to garner attention to a cause; that illustrates that Jacksonvilles protest was not only A success, it was a HUGE success! Including the Nazi posters.

        "Your continued personal attacks on my manhood, my perception, and calling me a coward is the hallmark of a person with a weak argument, ad hominem is the last refuge of one with nothing left to stand on.

        By virtue of the fact that we've concluded that Obama does embody the fiscal attributes of the Facists in pre-war Germany, and the fact that we've established the posters, nor their creators were hate-mongers, but brought an exceptional element to the protest, and by the exposure that you are more the libertarian than you are a Republican; I'd say we've established much for me to stand on: which is more than can be said for your liberal friend who now truly has nothing left to stand on. She's been exposed as a shill, and an, (can I say it?) "an elitist".
        To the contrary, I think we accomplished quite a bit.

        "I love this nation more than I can say. And I want to make sure it is safe for my children, that is why I will continue to work at the local level to restore balance in congress and eventually take back the White House, a goal I know you share."

        Admittedly, I believe you. I think we disagree on how to get there. All acrimony aside, I think this goes back to an earlier conversation. We have within our nation a group of people who don't use reason in their politics. This difference can be summed up well with the saying "give a man a fish and eat eats today, teach a man tofish and he eats forever". We understand the desire to give the man a fish: compassion demands it. The difference is those like Linda Melindez want to give the man a fish everyday: and that will ruin, is ruining, our economic power. When one confronts her with this information she crys "GIVE THE MAN ANOTHER FISH"! Well, someone has to pay for that fish. We're giving away so many fish that we're (America)not going to be able to buy fish for ourselves in the next generation that we're birthing today.
        Instead of acknowledging that fact, we have an Administration (POSTUS-down to Pelosi) that simply says: "WE won, shut up and sign the check". So we use the templett that or nation establhed for us" peacful demonstrations to bring attention to our concern, and illustrate to those who we're protesting that our numbers are many.
        Now, you have a couple of people who brought very insightful posters; posters that worked because 1. they illustrated their concerns dramatically. 2. Their illustration, upon, contemplation: is accurate and applicable. 3. Posters that have garnered nearly a week of discussion: that is success for a protest! And without one bloody nose. THAT epitomizes a successful peaceful protest.

        Instead of evaluating the message, the liberals (your friend) and acknowledging the message, while dramatic, were actually, resented the facts in that connotation and began to accuse others who attended with "insensitivity" and attempted to (your sterm here) "braodstroke" the entire protest as a Republican activity with the intentions of "braod-stroking" Republicans as mean-spirited ideologs. The news, and the responses I've seen indicates that attempt has failed and has even given that Party gravitas in comprehension of the understanding the average persons frustration. While I'm sure you think Ms. Melendez is a fine person, and she may be, her psoture on this issue was purely defensive and completely inaccurate. Both from athe perspective of blaming a political party for the personal opinions of two protestors (who she never proved were Republicans) and from the persprective that the posters were nothing more than hatred enunciated.

        "In the meantime, I will still try to keep a civil tounge in my head "

        While I would prefer that pardigm, that time has passed as I explained before. The evidence of that perspective is the "whipping" John McCain took in the last election. The one good thing about that election is it became a clarion call for Republicans in office and Republicans who were not galvanized before.
        Now, we visit and are greated as "saviors" (small "s") by people who understand this administration will destroy our nations economy.

  13. Jose, I was responding to your post. The reality is I don't think all Democrats are "slimy". But those who such as Ms. Melendez certainly are.

    I'm glad you're a Republican. I'd like to ask you to consider who you pal around with. If you hang out with a jig, you're going to get muddy. Ms. Melendez doesn't bring any gravitas to the table with her, nor any class- you've com close to being classified in that light by your association already. Seriously, (friendly) I'd advise you to re-visit that association.
    I understand your concern for polity and gentility- I honestly wish that was the political environment, but it isn't. Bush 43 tried to diminish the adversarial atmosphere and the Dems took what they could and continued in their magalomaniacal rush to socialism. "43" should have learned that lesson from "41" who, in a bi-partisan attempt to strengthen the economy let Dems convince him to work with them and raise taxes. The end result was a very effective campaign against "41" who lost because he listened to the Dems: and the the same Dems demonized him for listening to them.

    My point being, you are their friend as long as you're useful, afterwords they will call you a sexual predator guilty of statutory rape and runs a gay brotherl from your basement."

    They abuse gentility and kindness of speach to "over-shout" your propositions and grandstand their positions. Those days are gone, unfortunantly, and the only way for them to return is for the aggreivers of this paradigm to now illustrate their willingness to participate in the kinder, gentler tone. The position would be far more convinceing if they do so AFTER they lose their power base in government.
    Good afternmoon sir.

    • Mr. Davis,
      I am going to call this one a draw because I disagree with you. I have a pretty good track record of maintaining firendships and professional relationships with people all along the spectrum, including with Diane.

      I dont agree with her at all on national issues, but we both have a passion for local politics (something I think the local party is lacking ). She is also a stong "Law and Order" type and a victims advocate. Not the things you would expect from one of those weak liberals.

  14. abel harding lost all credibility because of this garbage he started. he has no place in serious journalism.

    • I would agree, that's why Melendez is stuck on a liberal gripe -forum where she can delete anything that illustrates how weak-minded she is.

  15. I was at the event and took over 100 pictures for my article....There were VERY few posters of this type there and as is, I was only able to catch a picture of that sign once! Lenny Curry is being attacked, but will fight back on WBOB 1320am on Thursday night at 5pm..... If you want to help fight this HOG-WASH that Olbermann is peddling, please call in and give your opinion
    904-854-1320

    and what happened to that sign holders freedom of speech, does it ONLY APPLY for liberals?

    • I dont know of anyone here who has said that the sign holders should have been removed. It is not about the sign holders at all, in fact, it is about the political wisdom of taking the time to take pictures of these jerks (who you say were hard to find in the first place) and then posting them on a sight that advertises us to the greater community.

      Chariman Curry did the right thing in taking them down, but they should not have been up in the first place, damage done.

      • "dont know of anyone here who has said that the sign holders should have been removed. It is not about the sign holders at all, in fact, it is about the political wisdom of taking the time to take pictures of these jerks (who you say were hard to find in the first place) and then posting them on a sight that advertises us to the greater community."

        Again, the original premise was the Republcans "allowed this to happen, and the attempt was to incorporate hatred into the Parties persona. After clarification of the issue became "the pictures".

        "but they should not have been up in the first place,"

        To the contrary, we've now established the posters, and the pictures were not hate-speach and that their content had intellectual and accurate merit.

        "Chariman Curry did the right thing in taking them down, but they should not have been up in the first place, damage done."

        The picture were taken down because they offended the sensitivities of those who weren't able to think the issue through. We understand it's wrong to upset weaker people and dogs. . .

        The fact that we had a liberal try this stunt was a bigger black eye on the community than the pictures themselves. Your friend is indeed, quite the embarassment to this city, (at least she didn't threaten to call the "Po-po").

        Let me take this opportunity to say to the readers that Jacksonville, like any other big city has it's share of over-emotional mental weaklings. As a citizen of this great city, let me apologise to you for having to endure her diatribe.

        It is a burden we bare. . .