Comments on: Local Republican Leaders Meet With African-American Pastors At Faith Forum http://www.jaxobserver.com/2009/08/28/local-gop-leaders-meet-with-african-american-pastors-at-forum/ Your Independent Alternative! Sat, 13 Aug 2011 16:20:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: JDavis http://www.jaxobserver.com/2009/08/28/local-gop-leaders-meet-with-african-american-pastors-at-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-2478 JDavis Tue, 01 Sep 2009 01:13:33 +0000 http://www.jaxobserver.com/?p=5355#comment-2478 Josey, I like it! Josey,
I like it!

]]> By: Jose http://www.jaxobserver.com/2009/08/28/local-gop-leaders-meet-with-african-american-pastors-at-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-2476 Jose Tue, 01 Sep 2009 00:15:03 +0000 http://www.jaxobserver.com/?p=5355#comment-2476 Really? Robert Byrd is a racist? I never knew that! Well that just disproves that right there.... I know that Byrd is a racist piece of rat hairball. I mention earlier that there are plenty of racists in the Democratic party. I also know about the Civil Rights act even though many republicans (including Goldwater) opposed it on states rights issues. "States Rights" is the problem, it has been used since Nixon to draw in disaffected whites since 68. Even though the "Solid South" went mostly for Goldwater in 64 anyway. The difference is that we made a choice to go after the pissed off white vote and now we have to work to undo that and the 40 years of propaganda that has been sucessfully reenforcing that image. There are a few things: Really? Robert Byrd is a racist? I never knew that! Well that just disproves that right there….

I know that Byrd is a racist piece of rat hairball. I mention earlier that there are plenty of racists in the Democratic party. I also know about the Civil Rights act even though many republicans (including Goldwater) opposed it on states rights issues.

“States Rights” is the problem, it has been used since Nixon to draw in disaffected whites since 68. Even though the “Solid South” went mostly for Goldwater in 64 anyway.

The difference is that we made a choice to go after the pissed off white vote and now we have to work to undo that and the 40 years of propaganda that has been sucessfully reenforcing that image.

There are a few things:

]]> By: Jose http://www.jaxobserver.com/2009/08/28/local-gop-leaders-meet-with-african-american-pastors-at-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-2475 Jose Tue, 01 Sep 2009 00:07:34 +0000 http://www.jaxobserver.com/?p=5355#comment-2475 Jimbo, I am sorry i must have missed it. There are a few things: 1) what I know you are doing already: constant engagement as a party with minority churches , civic groups and the people directly. Dont be afraid or write off these communities. The problem we have had in the past is that we give up too soon. It is going to take many years of deprogrammig to fix the false perceptions. 2) Dont let the dems frame the immigration debate as a race issue. 3) Tamp down people who have issues with race early, hopefully before they say something stupid in public. Dont be wishy washy, be aware of the parties image instead of trying to hide behind the press being mean to us. We know the press will be unfair, complaining will not solve the problem. Those are my three big ones, it is short but I think it is a start. Jimbo,
I am sorry i must have missed it.
There are a few things:

1) what I know you are doing already: constant engagement as a party with minority churches , civic groups and the people directly. Dont be afraid or write off these communities. The problem we have had in the past is that we give up too soon. It is going to take many years of deprogrammig to fix the false perceptions.

2) Dont let the dems frame the immigration debate as a race issue.

3) Tamp down people who have issues with race early, hopefully before they say something stupid in public. Dont be wishy washy, be aware of the parties image instead of trying to hide behind the press being mean to us. We know the press will be unfair, complaining will not solve the problem.

Those are my three big ones, it is short but I think it is a start.

]]> By: Duval GOP Grassroots http://www.jaxobserver.com/2009/08/28/local-gop-leaders-meet-with-african-american-pastors-at-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-2469 Duval GOP Grassroots Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:30:19 +0000 http://www.jaxobserver.com/?p=5355#comment-2469 Jose, The fact is that the Republican party did not absorb the Dixiecrats contrary to what the Dems will tell you. Have you ever heard of Sen Robert Byrd? Please name one Republican who has shown the level of racsim of Robert Byrd. Fact is without Republicans Lyndon Johnson would not have passed the civil rights act. Jose,
The fact is that the Republican party did not absorb the Dixiecrats contrary to what the Dems will tell you. Have you ever heard of Sen Robert Byrd? Please name one Republican who has shown the level of racsim of Robert Byrd. Fact is without Republicans Lyndon Johnson would not have passed the civil rights act.

]]> By: JDavis http://www.jaxobserver.com/2009/08/28/local-gop-leaders-meet-with-african-american-pastors-at-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-2467 JDavis Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:30:30 +0000 http://www.jaxobserver.com/?p=5355#comment-2467 I suppose your silence means you can pontificate, but cant supply any specific ideas. Yes? No? I suppose your silence means you can pontificate, but cant supply any specific ideas. Yes? No?

]]> By: JDavis http://www.jaxobserver.com/2009/08/28/local-gop-leaders-meet-with-african-american-pastors-at-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-2439 JDavis Sun, 30 Aug 2009 06:43:07 +0000 http://www.jaxobserver.com/?p=5355#comment-2439 Jose, I like the thought, any ideas on how to actuate the principle? Jose,
I like the thought, any ideas on how to actuate the principle?

]]> By: JDavis http://www.jaxobserver.com/2009/08/28/local-gop-leaders-meet-with-african-american-pastors-at-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-2413 JDavis Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:53:51 +0000 http://www.jaxobserver.com/?p=5355#comment-2413 Jose, What did you have in mind? Jose,
What did you have in mind?

]]> By: Jose http://www.jaxobserver.com/2009/08/28/local-gop-leaders-meet-with-african-american-pastors-at-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-2409 Jose Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:46:19 +0000 http://www.jaxobserver.com/?p=5355#comment-2409 While the Dems have their share of racists, we have a much greater hill to climb. 20 years of propaganda and the absorbtion of the George Wallace "Dixiecrats". We have to be better than the Dems, which means we need to make sure we attack racists within our own ranks with vigor. While the Dems have their share of racists, we have a much greater hill to climb. 20 years of propaganda and the absorbtion of the George Wallace “Dixiecrats”. We have to be better than the Dems, which means we need to make sure we attack racists within our own ranks with vigor.

]]> By: JDavis http://www.jaxobserver.com/2009/08/28/local-gop-leaders-meet-with-african-american-pastors-at-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-2408 JDavis Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:31:00 +0000 http://www.jaxobserver.com/?p=5355#comment-2408 Most Americans, including black Americans, when they take the time to sift through most issues and life applications, find they lean more towards conservative principles than liberal. While this paradigm holds true with black families as well, there has been a disconnect based on fear, misunderstanding, bigotry, and race-baiters flaming those perceptions. For decades, many non-black Americans have looked on the poor black community perplexed. Many with a desire to help, and to make a difference in the lives of so many wonderful people. They looked on with no idea how to achieve that difference, so they sat in their frustration, with sadness in their hearts. They didn't want to offer pity, because pity robs a person of their dignity, and there has been enough of that: evidenced by the unique challenges within these communities. This is a great moment in American history. Misters Nwasike and Cleary, along with the clergy at this event, can be congratulated on the possible facilitation of a new "Great Awakening". Not unlike the Original in colonial America. It is indeed "Morning in America" once again. Most Americans, including black Americans, when they take the time to sift through most issues and life applications, find they lean more towards conservative principles than liberal. While this paradigm holds true with black families as well, there has been a disconnect based on fear, misunderstanding, bigotry, and race-baiters flaming those perceptions.

For decades, many non-black Americans have looked on the poor black community perplexed. Many with a desire to help, and to make a difference in the lives of so many wonderful people. They looked on with no idea how to achieve that difference, so they sat in their frustration, with sadness in their hearts. They didn’t want to offer pity, because pity robs a person of their dignity, and there has been enough of that: evidenced by the unique challenges within these communities.

This is a great moment in American history. Misters Nwasike and Cleary, along with the clergy at this event, can be congratulated on the possible facilitation of a new “Great Awakening”. Not unlike the Original in colonial America. It is indeed “Morning in America” once again.

]]>