Comments on: The Battle Lines Are Forming http://www.jaxobserver.com/2009/11/17/the-battle-lines-are-forming/ Your Independent Alternative! Sat, 13 Aug 2011 16:20:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Ollie Koala http://www.jaxobserver.com/2009/11/17/the-battle-lines-are-forming/comment-page-1/#comment-4856 Ollie Koala Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:30:10 +0000 http://www.jaxobserver.com/?p=7592#comment-4856 The Mayor just lost a battle with the Jacksonville Young Democrats over Trail Ridge. Politically, fire fighters are light years ahead of them. As a matter of fact, the only political battles won by Peyton and Clark are the ones they got the fire fighters to fight for them, i.e. their campaigns, cecil field, amendment 1, etc. Neither would be in office right now if it wasn't for them. And we will see how many friends clark and peyton have when all of the other leaders in this city are lining up for election help. They are not going to want this hindering their own efforts. Hope everyone didn't buy their tickets to the Crist V. Rubio political battle. This one has the making to top it. The Mayor just lost a battle with the Jacksonville Young Democrats over Trail Ridge. Politically, fire fighters are light years ahead of them.

As a matter of fact, the only political battles won by Peyton and Clark are the ones they got the fire fighters to fight for them, i.e. their campaigns, cecil field, amendment 1, etc. Neither would be in office right now if it wasn’t for them.

And we will see how many friends clark and peyton have when all of the other leaders in this city are lining up for election help. They are not going to want this hindering their own efforts.

Hope everyone didn’t buy their tickets to the Crist V. Rubio political battle. This one has the making to top it.

]]> By: Anthony Golish http://www.jaxobserver.com/2009/11/17/the-battle-lines-are-forming/comment-page-1/#comment-4794 Anthony Golish Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:26:14 +0000 http://www.jaxobserver.com/?p=7592#comment-4794 If the City had funded over the years the Pensions like they should have been, not letting the stock market keep the Funds flush, then when the stock market went down the Funds could have weathered the situation better. Why should the Police and Fire Unions make concessions now, when in the past, the City would not raise its Contributions to the Fund while the Stock Market was going good. Another point is why are necessary City functions being targeted first when the City could eliminate Millions of Dollars in, while things are going great it would be nice to have this, non-critical items are left on the budget.(Aides for Mayor and City Council Members-No money-don't need aides to determine what to do with the money.) If the City had funded over the years the Pensions like they should have been, not letting the stock market keep the Funds flush, then when the stock market went down the Funds could have weathered the situation better. Why should the Police and Fire Unions make concessions now, when in the past, the City would not raise its Contributions to the Fund while the Stock Market was going good. Another point is why are necessary City functions being targeted first when the City could eliminate Millions of Dollars in, while things are going great it would be nice to have this, non-critical items are left on the budget.(Aides for Mayor and City Council Members-No money-don’t need aides to determine what to do with the money.)

]]> By: John Peavy http://www.jaxobserver.com/2009/11/17/the-battle-lines-are-forming/comment-page-1/#comment-4785 John Peavy Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:42:09 +0000 http://www.jaxobserver.com/?p=7592#comment-4785 First let me say I am glad the Radio Station gave the Fire and Police Pension Fund the opertunity to be on the show. I have lived in Jacksonville all my life Born in St. Luke's Hospital when it was on 8th and Boulivard. I recall years back that the City would borrow money from the Fire and Police Pension without intrest. Did they pay it back? Also city employees on pensions do not get Social Security so the city is not paying SS on these employees and employees with the city contribute around 7.5 percent to the pension. If the city ran the goverment as good as the Pension is managed they would not be in trouble. Before they mess with the pension funds they City Council and the Mayor's office needs to make some serious cuts. That's not cuts in service as they always say they need to do or go up on taxes. Take a Look at staff in the council offices and mayors take a look at the autorities JTA, JEA First let me say I am glad the Radio Station gave the Fire and Police Pension Fund the opertunity to be on the show.

I have lived in Jacksonville all my life Born in St. Luke’s Hospital when it was on 8th and Boulivard.

I recall years back that the City would borrow money from the Fire and Police Pension without intrest. Did they pay it back? Also city employees on pensions do not get Social Security so the city is not paying SS on these employees and employees with the city contribute around 7.5 percent to the pension. If the city ran the goverment as good as the Pension is managed they would not be in trouble.

Before they mess with the pension funds they City Council and the Mayor’s office needs to make some serious cuts. That’s not cuts in service as they always say they need to do or go up on taxes.

Take a Look at staff in the council offices and mayors take a look at the autorities JTA, JEA

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