Comments on: Governor Francis P. Fleming (1841–1908) http://www.jaxobserver.com/headstones/2009/10/02/governor-francis-p-fleming-1841%e2%80%931908/ Wed, 28 Apr 2010 17:53:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: SBrinkley http://www.jaxobserver.com/headstones/2009/10/02/governor-francis-p-fleming-1841%e2%80%931908/comment-page-1/#comment-140 SBrinkley Wed, 28 Apr 2010 17:53:48 +0000 http://www.jaxobserver.com/headstones/?p=91#comment-140 Great Article Mr. Miller! - And what a good reflection of the South and its almost passing generations of families that owned the Old Time Religion of Public Responsibility, and Christ Centered Behavior. The Fleming Family did a great job raising the young men of their family! What a vision to see then become Florida's future leaders. May God grant Florida's future the same sort of young men and women! In God We Trust! Go you Florida Flowers! OF all sorts! BTW - a comment on Mr. Alan Moore's comment to you about the Florida Flag ... the Florida Flag w/ the red cross design definitely hearkens to a heritage/historical context involving the "saltire" of the Scot-Irish Flag motifs. With small amount of research in Scots-Irish Vexillology ( is the scholarly study of flags) most students could see the point of your comment. There perhaps includes a nod towards the currently more politically correct and "officially required" explanation that the red cross or the "saltire", is was derived from several Spanish influences. It is easy to see that Florida's current flag is similar to that of the Spanish Cross of Burgundy, which was for centuries the flag of Spain, and the Spanish Empire, (circa 1506 - 65). It is also similar to the 'Flag of the Viceroyalty of New Spain', which territories included Florida. This same Flag (Viceroyalty) flew over Florida during 1565–1763 and 1784-1821. The influence of the Cross of Burgundy flag, which was used in Florida since at least 1565, possibly begins with the naming of "Florida" in 1513. This Cross of Burgundy design is over 500 years old, and certainly predates the flag of the United States by over 200 years. However, there is no ignoring that Gov. Fleming had Scot-Irish roots, and was certainly proud of his Young Hero of the Confederacy Son: Captain C. Seton Fleming, who was valiant above the common at the Battle of Second Cold Harbor! And I believe - enough so that it may be inferred that the current State of Florida's Flag Design includes a justifiable homage to his son's sacrifice, the entire CSA Florida Brigade' s sacrifices, and the history of the conquered lands of Florida by the Spanish during the 1500's. Again Mr. Miller - Great Article! Great Article Mr. Miller! – And what a good reflection of the South and its almost passing generations of families that owned the Old Time Religion of Public Responsibility, and Christ Centered Behavior. The Fleming Family did a great job raising the young men of their family! What a vision to see then become Florida’s future leaders. May God grant Florida’s future the same sort of young men and women! In God We Trust! Go you Florida Flowers! OF all sorts!

BTW – a comment on Mr. Alan Moore’s comment to you about the Florida Flag … the Florida Flag w/ the red cross design definitely hearkens to a heritage/historical context involving the “saltire” of the Scot-Irish Flag motifs. With small amount of research in Scots-Irish Vexillology ( is the scholarly study of flags) most students could see the point of your comment. There perhaps includes a nod towards the currently more politically correct and “officially required” explanation that the red cross or the “saltire”, is was derived from several Spanish influences. It is easy to see that Florida’s current flag is similar to that of the Spanish Cross of Burgundy, which was for centuries the flag of Spain, and the Spanish Empire, (circa 1506 – 65). It is also similar to the ‘Flag of the Viceroyalty of New Spain’, which territories included Florida. This same Flag (Viceroyalty) flew over Florida during 1565–1763 and 1784-1821.
The influence of the Cross of Burgundy flag, which was used in Florida since at least 1565, possibly begins with the naming of “Florida” in 1513. This Cross of Burgundy design is over 500 years old, and certainly predates the flag of the United States by over 200 years.

However, there is no ignoring that Gov. Fleming had Scot-Irish roots, and was certainly proud of his Young Hero of the Confederacy Son: Captain C. Seton Fleming, who was valiant above the common at the Battle of Second Cold Harbor! And I believe – enough so that it may be inferred that the current State of Florida’s Flag Design includes a justifiable homage to his son’s sacrifice, the entire CSA Florida Brigade’ s sacrifices, and the history of the conquered lands of Florida by the Spanish during the 1500’s.

Again Mr. Miller – Great Article!

]]> By: Alan Moore http://www.jaxobserver.com/headstones/2009/10/02/governor-francis-p-fleming-1841%e2%80%931908/comment-page-1/#comment-68 Alan Moore Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:30:42 +0000 http://www.jaxobserver.com/headstones/?p=91#comment-68 Actually the red cross on the florida state flag is NOT the St. Andrews cross ( that is white on blue background) But is the St. Patricks cross. Which is the actuall flag of Northern Ireland Actually the red cross on the florida state flag is NOT the St. Andrews cross ( that is white on blue background) But is the St. Patricks cross. Which is the actuall flag of Northern Ireland

]]> By: Annie Potts http://www.jaxobserver.com/headstones/2009/10/02/governor-francis-p-fleming-1841%e2%80%931908/comment-page-1/#comment-53 Annie Potts Wed, 23 Dec 2009 01:26:40 +0000 http://www.jaxobserver.com/headstones/?p=91#comment-53 I do believe that Colonel Lewis (Louis) was actually Francis' half-brother not step brother. For further excellent reading on the Fleming Family and Fleming Island you can find Eugenia Price's "Margaret" the 3rd of a Trilogy of Stores about the history of the Saint Augustine area. I do believe that Colonel Lewis (Louis) was actually Francis’ half-brother not step brother. For further excellent reading on the Fleming Family and Fleming Island you can find Eugenia Price’s “Margaret” the 3rd of a Trilogy of Stores about the history of the Saint Augustine area.

]]> By: Rogers Holmes, Jr. http://www.jaxobserver.com/headstones/2009/10/02/governor-francis-p-fleming-1841%e2%80%931908/comment-page-1/#comment-51 Rogers Holmes, Jr. Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:08:44 +0000 http://www.jaxobserver.com/headstones/?p=91#comment-51 Wonderful article! Keep them coming! Can you do some research on Col. James J. Daniel? Wonderful article! Keep them coming! Can you do some research on Col. James J. Daniel?

]]> By: Dean Bird http://www.jaxobserver.com/headstones/2009/10/02/governor-francis-p-fleming-1841%e2%80%931908/comment-page-1/#comment-35 Dean Bird Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:36:55 +0000 http://www.jaxobserver.com/headstones/?p=91#comment-35 Very interesting. Have wondered about how Fleming Island got it's name. Very interesting. Have wondered about how Fleming Island got it’s name.

]]> By: Calvin Lee http://www.jaxobserver.com/headstones/2009/10/02/governor-francis-p-fleming-1841%e2%80%931908/comment-page-1/#comment-20 Calvin Lee Sun, 18 Oct 2009 20:00:08 +0000 http://www.jaxobserver.com/headstones/?p=91#comment-20 Great story on Gov. Fleming, I loved the details of his life. Thanks Great story on Gov. Fleming, I loved the details of his life.

Thanks

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